Science and otasl ECM / DMS

First, I want to thank everyone for their active participation and valuable comments. I must say that all agree. And I call you to spend less effort on the ...

Thank you very much, Dmitry Romanov for the most constructive and practical commentary.
In addition to the ANE and MIPT is something we still have in mind? .

Also thanks to Stanislav Kim is also a very practical comment.
As I understand it, we can count on support in the ETU.

I propose to share all the same technical and substantive part - ECM as a technology and document as such. In his first post, I put it over- emotional about it. ( For which he received his due. ) But I would venture once more to see that we have mindshare themes related to records management is disproportionately large compared to the place that is Records Management within ECM. The remaining blocks ECM very far from our traditional understanding of the document. Suffice it to recall a presentation by Atle Dokflou. What did he say? . It is not the registration, storage time and judicial risks. This is all important, but it's just part of the ECM. Let's not argue about whose meadow importantly, just find a common balance.

I have not received concrete proposals to go to graduate - documentologists except in VNIIDAD. In my humble opinion should still be a place. Handbook for applicants to higher education, I myself would have to take. Looking for live human contact, where the head. Department understands the subject of ECM and can adequately support the area where you can find real scientific adviser.
( Natalia, I hope for your help. ).

Good was a proposal by Paul Eiges inform the community about upcoming opportunities for protection and support our young scientists.

As a strategic goal - and why not? . For example, my roommate at the hostel is now in California, working in the specialty. And I think that many people can say the same about their classmates.

The important point remains unresolved: Should company executives that their employees conduct research work?.

Kolesov Andrei asked where to get the supervisors, who would be ... And no one has confessed! .

I agree, let's not dwell on it theses. It was around that broke all the fuss. Yes, in any science were weak thesis will be made ​​for the sake. There are, and - oh! . What a nightmare!.
But for pity's sake! . That's nothing to talk about it. Community can make a contribution to the improvement of the situation is not useless criticism, and helpful actions. Formulation of interesting topics. Establishing contacts with universities. Here's colleagues from the Documentum often complain that there is no decent intelligence ECM market in Russia. So it is also quite drawn to the scientific work - because you do not need custom sales rankings, even if you can buy the first place. Clients do not believe in them. And this work alone and on his knee to make unrealistic.


Let it be wider - research. Here is a quote from the writings of a man who successfully combined scientific work with practical advice, the author's methodology ontosinteza, powerful trends in consulting - In. On. Dudchenko:.

... The main requirement for me as a consultant will be required to achieve positive practical changes in people, processes and organizations, which I consult. ...


Since the unresolved issues remain, let's make one more round of discussions. After that we will move on to practical steps, or completely close this topic. So, let's not mutual criticism, but in essence - what can we do to improve the situation of research in the field of ECM?.